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![↑ [-] IrbyTremor 쑈socTAL JUSTICE JABBERWOCKY쑈 [M] 1 point 24 minutes ago Nope. Removed This is obvious JAQing off permalink save report give gold reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [S] 1 point 18 minutes ago What does that mean? permalink save parent edit delete reply ↑ [-] IrbyTremor 쑈socuL JUSTICE JABBERWOCKY쑈 [M] 1 point 14 minutes ago "Just Asking Questions" You're not 'neutral', you can easily get your answers from a simple search. Sorry but no tolerance for these threads which we see a thousand times a day permalink save parent report give gold reply [-] Redknight5 [S] 1 point 12 minutes ago I fail to understand. Of course I'm not neutral, that's why I am coming here to learn more about the side of the issue that I would consider myself less sympathetic too. It is extremely difficult to find anything about either side that isn't extremely biased so why not just come to the source and ask? permalink save parent edit delete reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [5] 1 point 10 minutes ago I have a thread on the pro GG forum asking the same questions, and I am actually getting to have an open discussion here with people who see the issue differently then I do, how is that a removable offense? permalink save parent edit delete reply ↑ [-] IrbyTremor 쑈socTAL JUSTICE JABBERWOCKY [M] 1 point 8 minutes ago I have a thread on the pro GG forum asking the same questions Yeah thats called JAQing off. We're good permalink save parent report give gold reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [5] 1 point 8 minutes ago How... what...? I just want understand the issue better... and that's offensive to you? permalink save parent edit delete reply [-] 1rbyTremor 쑈socuL JUSTICE JABBERWOCKY b [M] 1 point 5 minutes ago Did I mention being 'offended'? No, this isnt being offended. This is our rule. Every answer you could have wanted is searchable AQing off gums up the works. If you have an issue you can discuss it in our modmail permalink save parent report give gold reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [S] 1 point 4 minutes ago So I'm confused, if this thread doesn't exist to explain GG and Anti GG sentiment, what does it exist to do? permalink save parent edit delete reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [5] 1 point just now when I played devils advocate on the GG subreddit I wasn't threatened with having my thread removed for wanting to discuss it, what about discussing this matter is "gumming up the works"? permalink save parent edit delete reply ↑ [-] Redknight5 [S] 1 point 21 minutes ago So I'd like to say I was proGG, but really I believe in and fervently agree with both sides of the issue so I wonder where the group for that exists. -.- Sexism is bad... Corruption is bad... Why are both groups screaming at each other from across the isle? Video games are an amazing way of addressing social issues and making you feel things in ways that other mediums cannot so it makes sense that gaming is the prefect medium for addressing sexism, but why does it feel like it has to be an "either/or" at this point with sexism and ethics permalink save edit delete reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/857/928/2b0.png "Do not question")
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![Gamergate (harassment campaign) Article Talk From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia For other uses, see Gamergate (disambiguation). Gamergate or GamerGate (GG)[¹] was a loosely organized misogynistic online harassment campaign and a right-wing backlash against feminism, diversity, and progressivism in video game culture. [2][³] It was conducted using the hashtag "#Gamergate" primarily in 2014 and 2015.[1][4][5][6] Beginning in August 2014, Gamergate targeted women in the video game industry, most notably feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian and video game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, among others.[7][8][9][10][11] The harassment campaign included doxing, r--- threats, and death threats.[12][13][14] Gamergate proponents ("Gamergaters") stated that they were a social movement, but lacked well-defined goals, a coherent message, and leaders, making Gamergate difficult to define.[15][16][17] Gamergaters claimed to promote ethics in video games journalism, claimed to be protecting the "gamer" identity, and opposed what they asserted as "political correctness" in video games.[18][19][20][21][22] Read Date Target Gamergate, online harassment campaign in 2014-15 that targeted women in the video game industry. The attacks were attributed largely to white male right-wing gamers who railed against the rise and influence of women and feminism in the industry. Gamergate served as a recruiting tool for the growing alt-right movement and helped spur the online “Pizzagate" conspiracy theory, which soon spawned the wider QAnon conspiracy movement. …………………………....…..……….…..... Attack type Victims Motive View source Inquiry XA 28 languages ✓ Perpetrators Internet trolls, particularly from 4chan, Internet Relay Chat, and 8chan View history Tools ✓ Gamergate August 2014 - 2015 Women in the video game industry See all media Online harassment campaign Zoë Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, and others Gamergaters created conspiracy theories falsely accusing Quinn of an unethical relationship with video game journalist Nathan Grayson.[23][24][25] More broadly, they alleged unethical collusion between the press and feminists, progressives, and social critics.[17][26] [27] These claims were widely dismissed as trivial, conspiracy theories, baseless, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics in gaming and journalism.[28] [29][30] Gamergate supporters frequently denied that the harassment took place, falsely claiming it to be manufactured by the victims.[31][32] Misogyny anti-feminism anti- progressivism FBI investigation Gamergate has been described as a culture war over cultural diversification, artistic recognition, feminism in video games, social criticism in video games, and the social identity of gamers.[28][33] [34] [35] Many supporters of Gamergate opposed the increasing influence of feminism and so-called "social justice warriors" on video game culture. [2][36] Gamergate led figures both inside and outside the gaming industry to focus on methods of addressing online harassment, ways to minimize harm, and prevent similar events. [37] [38] [39] [40] Gamergate has been viewed as a contributor to the alt-right and other right- wing movements.[21][41] Video game developer Brianna Wu](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/002/691/215/331.png "What the actual f--- are we supposed to do about this")
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![http://www.discussnothing.com/images/destructoidcheaters.html Go AUG OCT Close X INTERNET ARCHIVE res 3 Aug 07-20 Nov 08 2008 Help ? I've had enough of Destructoid's cheating. It angers me in knowing that they can make a quick buck just by "using" Digg's traffic. I mean, just look at this image I've conducted. They use their staff members to quickly Digg up a newly submitted article so it gains popularity. Take a look at their profiles, they Digg ONLY Destructoid articles. σσ In order for Digg to continue to be the great tool that it is, cheaters like Destructoid need to be stopped. Why do we want to read a stupid article that obviously had to be "forced" onto the homepage. I'm sorry, Destructoid, but I rather those links on the homepage be full of different LulzCats rather than your s----- interviews, top 10 lists, stupid speculations, and bad writing. Digg, please ban Destructoid from posting future articles. We will be perfectly fine without. If you have any comments, please email me here. (Johnnycrizman [at] gmail [dot] com) Links to only some of the culprits: Here are only some of the culprits. Destructoid, if you get your staff to bury this article and it doesn't get indexed, I promise I will be back http://digg.com'users/grrlaction http://digg.comusers/cyborgver666 http://digg.com users/ProfessorOak http://digg.com users/DickMcVengeance http://digg.comusers/RonWorkman http://digg.comusers/DHoughton * http://digg.com users Grigsby Anthony Bite Burch Thank God for Jim Sterl ing s unethical cheat ing ass Sorry guys, I have to make a living too, but at least this story is/worth the traffic, unlike Destructoid's articles. :) REMEMBER KIDS, IT'S ABOUT MISOGYNY Thanks to user luckElouE for this tip: Here's more proof of Destructoid cheaters at work: 5 articles on main page in a single day: http://img149 imageshack.us my php?image-gamingot0.gif While 10 of the 15 popular upcoming stories were theres: http://img79imageshack.us/my.php?image-gamingupcomingvs3.gif And here's a full compiled list of their cheaters: Submitters: Typhus - http://digg.com/users/typhus/news/submitted Videogamefreak1 - http://digg.com users/videogamefreak1/news/submitted Grrlaction http://digg.com users/grrlaction news/submitted Nagiko - hftp://digg.com/users nagiko /news/submitted vSavantv - http://digg.com'users/vSavantv/news/submitted DHoughton - http://digg.com/users/DHoughton news/submitted NexFlamma http://digg.com users/NexFlamma/news/submitted Hush http://digg.com users/orcist news/submitted RevAnthony- http://digg.com users/RevAnthony/news/submitted DickMcVengeance - http://digg.comusers DickMcVengeance/news/submitted CanadianGeese - http://digg.com/users/CanadianGeese/news/submitted RonWorkman - http://digg.com/users RonWorkmannews/submitted Diggers: Fierytackle - http://digg.com/users /fierytackle/news dugg Bhive01 - http://digg.comusers/bhive01/news/dugg BrynnArcturo - http://digg.com/users BrynnArcturo/news/dugg MrMxyzptlk http://digg.com'users/MrMxyzptknews/ dugg Kabojnk - http://digg.com/users/kabojnk news/dugg WeeklyGeek - http://digg.com/users/WeeklyGeek/news/dugg GodLen - http:/digg.com'users/GodLen/news/dugg Kalauer - http:/digg.com'users/kalauer/news/dugg Grigsby - http://digg.com users/Grigsby/news/dugg Keen31 - http://digg.com/users/keen31/news/dugg Gameboi - http://digg.com users/gameboi/news/dugg Tazartheyoot - http://digg.com'users/tazartheyoot/news/dugg Dirtyknobs http://digg.com'users/dirtyknobs/news/dugg Borrie - http://digg.com/users/Borrie/news/dugg Crisisaverted - http://digg.com/users/crisisaverted'news/ dugg King3vbo - http:f/digg.com'users/king3vbo/news/dugg http://digg.com users/Hushgush/news/submitted MorphineJim- http:/digg.com users/MorphineJim/news/submitted Namelessted - http://digg.com/users/namelessted'news/submitted Orcist](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/857/890/428.png "Loathe god for him.")
![996 Pristine Condition Member Originally Posted by jschreier: D Yesterday, 11:32 PM) I'm just baffled at how many people dont see why people like me consider it problematic. As someone who has made his living entirely in the arts for almost fifteen years, (If I don't make my work, I quite literally don't eat.) I'm baffled by people like you who have such unevolved and disrespectful attitudes towards art and artists I work in photography. I thank God that in my industry critics and journalists covering my medium don't act like you and your lot. If we did, perhaps the chilling effect would have meant no one would see important work by the likes of Arbus ("Oh, she exploits poor people and freaks!"), Saudek (oh, look at how he sexualizes women!!!",) and Helnwein COMG!!! Nazi imagery!!!"). If people like you lot were placed in a position to have a significant voice in photography, Robert Mapplethorpe would have been stuck taking "those pretty pictures of flowers, and Steven Meisel would have been told by his rep to stick to taking "pretty" pictures of models, without any of that troubling "social commentary stuff No, in my medium, critics and journalists by and large would stand up for the artist, and want the art to speak for itself, and want to promote art to the widest audience possible, even if it is work that may be controversial or even downright disturbing. See, art that is not stifled is healthy art. Let the art speak for itself, and let the people (and the market) ultimately decide. Criticism is done, but it is done with a conscience for how such criticism should never stifle free expression. As video games become more sophisticated in terms of visuals, perhaps you aren't cut out for being in this position as a commentator on a medium inching ever closer to fine art. Perhaps you should move into writing about politics, if you thing a large-breasted figure is so dangerous that it needs to be labeled "a harmful work of art. I think the art and artists who want to do interesting, personal work and not just cookie-cutter, committee-approved s--- would thank you for exiting the field you are so clearly not committed to the future of. For this medium to grow artistically, it will require dvocates of artists, not judgemental folks offended so easily, and so eager to throw labels on artists. Last edited by Pristine Condition; Yesterday at 11:40 PM Pristine Condition Member Today, 01:15 AM) Quote #1182 Originally Posted by jschreier: Jesus. What a nasty post. Go back to your twitter fans stroking your ego if you think that was a nasty post. If my post was "nasty" then what is calling an artist a 14-year-old boy, accusing him of homophobia, and saying he produces "harmful work[s] of art?" Methinks you simply like to dish out the criticism, and can't bear a little aimed at you in return. ginally Posted by j And this idea that I want to "stifle free expression" is just blowing my mind. I really want to know why so many people think that it's impossible for me to criticize a piece of art - or call it harmful to video game culture - without wanting to censor it. Let me make this clear: I do not want to censor anything. Calling something "harmful" does not equate to saying "This should not be allowed to exist. I would love it if Dragon's Crown didn't have such tasteless designs. That doesn't mean I'm going to tell George Kamitani how to make the game he wants to make. Gee. Where would we have gotten that idea? Oh yeah. The title of your original piece and pretty much all your subsequent writing on this subject, including your attempted character assassination of the artist whose work you think is so harmful. Or perhaps the content of the article, when you suggested the artist should not be hired by the studio. Originally Posted by jschreier This week, someone made a video game to make fun of the Boston bombing. I think most of us would agree that something like that is in poor taste. I'd even say it's harmful to video game culture. That doesn't mean I'd want it censored, or banned, or removed from the Internet. Good for you. But we're talking about stuff that you wrote. I understand that you want to deflect our attention away from that now, but I'm not going to take the bait. Originally Posted by jschreien As for the direct comparisons between photography and gaming, well, if your industry had the same sort of issues with sexism and exclusion that the video game industry does, then that might be more apt. But as I've said before and I'll say again, this is part of a bigger problem. The shocking amount of actual ignorance on display with this statement is simply mind-boggling. It's embarrassing, really You're talking about a medium in photography that was a rich old boys club for at least the first fifty years of it's conception. The medium wouldn't even be available to the middle class for decades. And for example, in photojournalism, a female, Margaret Bourke-White, wouldn't break into the field until after around 30 years of male domination. You're talking about a medium that was also the most popular form o p---------- for about 150 years, with all the free speech, sexual, homosexual and race politics that goes along with that. Exclusion? You're talking about a medium where photographers have been threatened with death for their art, and many have indeed been killed. You're talking about a medium which has produced artists like Mapplethorpe and Serrano for goodness sake. And the industry still has problems with stereotypes. Men are usually thought of as more generally technically proficient photographers, while women are thought to be more sensitive to capturing emotion. It's b------- on both ends. but it exists.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/826/635/8d7.png_large "A photographer gives his feedback on the current attitudes on display...")
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