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GamerGate - Willfully ignoring WP:BLPSELFPUB from Wikipedia editors and ignoring Forbes as a source
![eptember 2014 [edit] This is your only warning, if you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory content into an article or any other Wikipedia page again, as you did at Zoe Quinn, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Talk pages are not exempt from BLP, you have been warned repeatedly not to use talk page space to make unsupported attacks on article subjects NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:42, 21 September 2014 (UTC) a NorthBySouthBaranof First off, this is the wrong template. I removed information I did not add it. Secondly, the information is in violation of WP:BLPSELFPUB's #1 rule: that the text in question not be unduly self-serving. As the text in question is, in fact, unduly self-serving, it shouldn't be used. That's ignoring the WP NPOV issues it has, as well as WP:UNDUE. Titanium Dragon (talk) 08:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC) No, you added unsourced, highly-negative defamatory claims to the talk page As @Gamaliel: just warned you above, that's prohibited. You are not permitted to use a biography's talk page as a soapbox to express your opinions about the biographical subject. If you do not refrain from doing so in the future, I believe you should be topic-banned from anything relating to living people under the discretionary sanctions authorized by ArbCom. You have consistently disregarded the encyclopedia's policies in this matter. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2014 (UTC) Ah, that. See, this is why you don't use templates. Unfortunately, as I noted below, this is in fact cited in Forbes , as you should well know, given that it has been cited in GamerGate on numerous occasions. And quit threatening me; you've gotten yourself into enough trouble already. Titanium Dragon (talk) 09:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC) Perhaps you need to actually read the template: into an article or any other Wikipedia page. That includes talk pages. And no, the accusations you made on that page are not factual, or even well-argued As for my statement, it is not a threat. It is a statement of fact that someone will end up topic-banning or blocking you if you keep violating BLP. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC) It is an attempt to intimidate me. As I noted, the statement was in fact entirely factual. Forbes sources it, as I noted, as do a number of other sources. Zoe Quinn is not a reliable source, especially not on herself. She was engaged in the doxxing of TFYC, as noted by Cinemablend. Forbes notes that the accusations she made against Wizardchan, where she claimed to have been harassed by them, have been called into question and The Escapist edited the article to note that the only source on it was Zoe Quinn herself and as people noted, she gained a lot of press after she was "harassed". That's reality. That is in reliable sources. You have been warned about attempting to censor discussion of this stuff on the talk page before. You should be familiar with these sources, given your participation on GamerGate. Have you even read any of the sources I've linked to? Ever? Because you continue to claim that no sources say this stuff, and yet, a number do. Titanium Dragon (talk) 09:21, 21 September 2014 (UTC) There is no reliable source which says what you said It's not "intimidation" to warn you that you're breaching Wikipedia policy Go ahead, start an ANI thread that claims I'm "censoring" you by deleting unsourced defamatory content from talk pages. See what happens. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 09:29, 21 September 2014 (UTC) I just repeated everything I said. I sourced it. What part of it wasn't reliably sourced? Incidentally, you do realize that adding that Cracked stuff is, in fact, a violation of BLP, right? Because it totally is Titanium Dragon (talk) 09:39, 21 September 2014 (UTC) You are now indefinitely topic banned from any edits and discussion related to Zoe Quinn and GamerGate, broadly construed, under the discretionary sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee. This ban has been logged at Wikipedia Editing_restrictions. Gamaliel (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC) We are discussing this issue here. Titanium Dragon (talk) 20:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/834/849/773.png)
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![THE EMAILS I had a thought. Maybe a bad one. You tell me: I remember a few years back when Patrick Klepek hit on some tough circumstances we all pitched in to get him a "feel better" gift. Anybody think something like that could be appropriate to address the circumstances that have been forced upon Zoe? Even ifit's not monetary. Maybe a signed, joint letter of support from the Game Journo Pros. I know she's not a member of the group like Patrick was, butI do know that this is part of a broader theme of the industry losing talent to the toxic culture. And that's our business. In my mind, it's a joinit show of solidarity to match the trolls'joint show of force The last thing I think we want is Zoe thinking she's under attack "alone. The brain has a way of convineing you thathttps://medium.com/@andreaszecher/ WHERE WE DID SEE THIS? OH RIGHT, THAT OPEN LETTER TO THE GAMING COMMUNITY. 2500 PEOPLE SIGNED UP! PROBABLY SOME DIDN'T KNEW BUT MOSTLY KNEW THIS AND HELPED. CHECK THE NAMES OF SIGNERS! THE INITIAL 650 NAMES WERE ORIGINAL ONES WHO HELPED silent people are against you. open-letter-to-the-gaming-community-df4511032e8a Andrew Groen, WIRED contributor As the person Im going to assume is the most irrationally optimistic person here, I like this idea. Small bits of kindness can do a lot, even when found in oceans of s---. ARCHIVE IN THE CASE SOMEONE "ACIDENTALLY DELETE THE PAGE https://archive.today/TsOdn (656 ORIGINAL SIGNERS] Dan Starkey, Eurogamer, GameSpot, Joystiq, Kotakuu 1 This is barely a game-industry story, no matter how some people want to frame it. This is a story about a person who happens to be in the game industry and their personal relationships (no matter how it may weave back into "the industry" and however poor the person's judgments may have been) and public expose of private materials by that https://archive.today/fGrzi (2500 SIGNERS] person's partner as revenge, so I don't think we, as games press, should support furthering the story by commenting, editorializing or even allowing others to ruminate on t Andy Eddy who here hasn't slept with a PR person or game developer? #AMIRITE Andreas Zecher on Sep1 William O'Neal, editor-in-chief, TechRadar.com I like the signed letter of support idea. Even better if we can get some developers in on that. Anyone want to volunteer to draft something? RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING OPEN LETTER. Kyle Orland, Ars Technica I'd also suggest that - ifothers think the letter is a good idea - we should do this entirely under the radar, organizing it through word-of-mouth and email rather than Twitter.I made the mistake earlier of publicly voicing support and in doing so drawing more attention to the issue. Id rather not make that mistake again. http://www.madebypixelate.com/ https://twitter.com/andreaszecher https://medium.com/@andreaszecher Andrew Groen, WIRED contributor As sympatheric as I am to the horrible harassment Zoe fadent has http://www.continue-play.com/news/andreas- raised enough questions about the incestuous relationship between press and developers already -Jason Schreier, Kotaku zechers-letter-to-the-gaming-community/ http://cargocollective.com/andreaszecher/ http://www.giantbomb.com/andreas-zecher/3040- Silver lining: Quinn is getting a bunch of new Patreon patrons today, apparently - Kyle Orland, Ars Technica 121414/ 1 would prefer not to be associated with this. It feels wrong to me. I think it fels very off to reach across the fence from journalist to subject in this way. I prefer professional distance, especially given the accusations being levied at us from outside. Mike Futter, Game Informer](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/000/832/655/274.png "That dumb 2,500 signed card was complete fabrication")
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