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Anonymous 2 hours ago No.499368 2499 389 >499 >>498960 (ОР) >How come animes went to s--- after the 90s? It didn't People can conflate 80s and 90s anime with as few as four anime (Akira, GitS, Bebop, NGE), and rarely more than ten to twenty. But the number of TV series, OVAs and movies that started between 1980-01-01 and 1999-12-31 is 760, 938, and 662 as listed on AniDB (TV specials not incl tiny slice of anime pre-selected by distributors and networks, and out of that slice only a few works are commonly known today. It's not just that people are cherry-picking, they also have a distorted understanding of what anime was like before the 2000s and 2010s, and have false expectations of what anime is supposed to be like. Bebop is an outlier by a director who's into American pop culture, not a representative example of what anime is meant to be. Cyberpunk was a phase that receded in popularity in both Japan and America ). The number of anime shown on Adult Swim in 2000-2005 was about 25, and for 1998-2005 Toonami it was about the same. People saw a After 2005 Toonami petered out, anime programming declined on Adult Swim (Death Note and Code Geass were shown in 2007 and 2008, and what do you know: they are some of the most commonly cited anime of the 2000s), and after a 2006 peak the foreign anime market crashed and the anime boom ended in America. Right after that came the smartphone and social media apocal headed to 4chan after all the Internet mediafication and consolidation of the internet made it easy for them to spread (dis/mis )information and memes, and build consensus e and everyone got on the internet. Many d Project Chanology coverage a glimpse of the bigger picture of anime as filtered through /a/. People went to other places too, and the social ac People were working with what they knew of anime based mostly on Toonami and Adult Swim and what they knew of it based on fragments they saw on the internet. They understood little but thought they understood everything, and a lot of misconceptions started to develop and spread. They jumped to conclusions instead of learning anything, and didn't have a clear picture of what anime was coming out or what that anime was even like, who it was for, how well it sold, and so on. There are also significant and very complex differences between Japan and America in culture, society and media that people aren't even aware exist, and the flow of information from Japan to America is not great. So the situation was like blind men studying an elephant and relying their impressions to each other through a game of Chinese whispers in an echo chamber where the loudest voices win It's commonly believed that light novel adaptations have taken over, but they are actually outnumbered by manga adaptations and even original anime (there are a grand total of two LN adaptations this season, or three if you count shorts). It's believed that shows like K-On have taken over, but there have only been a few per season, sometimes none (very few of which have sales numbers even a quarter of K-On's). It's believed that shows like K-On feature pre-pubescent characters, but they are usually in high school or middle school (anyone with basic anime literacy can tell the difference). People can't decide if shows like K-On are ones where girls act cute and nothing happens or ones where a male protagonist sexually harasses the female characters and there are panty shots all the time. Shows like Girls und Panzer, Flying Witch and Hibike are conflated with K-On even though they are very different. Everything KyoAni has ever made is conflated with K-On. Fanservice is accused of being rampant and existing only to drive up sales, when in fact fanservice-heavy shows aren't made that much and don't have strong s thought to be identical to Sword Art Online, even though that isn't true at all. People complain bitterly about isekai and light novel shows being intri thei Perfect Insider had aired just the complaining that there just aren't any American-friendly shows being made anymore. And so on. The gap between what people believe is happening and what is actually happening is enormous. It seems like they should often be able to sense that something is wrong, but evidently theyve become experts at tuning out cognitive dissonance fanservic also been around since th ). The number of harem shows is overestimated by an order of magnit very kai (alternative world) anime i terrible even as they vote Re o and KonoSuba as the best of sons, oblivious to the contradiction. They get excited about Erased saving anime because it's a mature and serious show, even though Concrete Revolutio, Iron-Blooded Orphans, Sakurako-san and The son prior and there's nothing new about any of them. Almost every single show that you would expect Americans to approve of or be interested in is ignored while people sit around cont Anonymous 2 hours ago No.499369 499398 >499368 People don't watch anime or watch very little of it. They don't understand the limits of what little knowledge they may have. They aren't aware of their own biases and their own thoughts. They judge and develop expectations for anime through the lens of American culture even though it isn't made in America or for Americans, and they frequently employ nonsensical double standards in the process (f------ is ok in HBO shows and European art films if it olent r---, but get that degenerate otaku-panderi ng beach episode commerci t fanservic t outta They can rate things that are unfamiliar to them, and even omething as simple as watching undubbed anime may be too much. They expect that everything must adapt to them, not the other way around. They're weak-minded, easily manipulated by memes and hardly possess any free will (the internet noosphere tells them exactly what to think). They prefer mediation and abstraction over direct experience (slice of life anime is bad and all the same, according to what theyve heard and since n and Amaama to nazuma are both slice oflife they are both bad and both the same). They think being angry and cynical and hating everything is cruise contro or coo 90% of anime is s---, Sturgeon's Law lol), or maybe the y just enjoy getting outraged over thin Maybe anime just isn't for them and they should stop trying to struggle with it and go do something else, but I guess nowadays everything needs to be for everyone and everyone needs to state their strongly held opinions on everything even if they really, really have no idea what they're talking about

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Anonymous 2 hours ago No.499368 2499 389 >499 >>498960 (ОР) >How come animes went to s--- after the 90s? It didn't People can conflate 80s and 90s anime with as few as four anime (Akira, GitS, Bebop, NGE), and rarely more than ten to twenty. But the number of TV series, OVAs and movies that started between 1980-01-01 and 1999-12-31 is 760, 938, and 662 as listed on AniDB (TV specials not incl tiny slice of anime pre-selected by distributors and networks, and out of that slice only a few works are commonly known today. It's not just that people are cherry-picking, they also have a distorted understanding of what anime was like before the 2000s and 2010s, and have false expectations of what anime is supposed to be like. Bebop is an outlier by a director who's into American pop culture, not a representative example of what anime is meant to be. Cyberpunk was a phase that receded in popularity in both Japan and America ). The number of anime shown on Adult Swim in 2000-2005 was about 25, and for 1998-2005 Toonami it was about the same. People saw a After 2005 Toonami petered out, anime programming declined on Adult Swim (Death Note and Code Geass were shown in 2007 and 2008, and what do you know: they are some of the most commonly cited anime of the 2000s), and after a 2006 peak the foreign anime market crashed and the anime boom ended in America. Right after that came the smartphone and social media apocal headed to 4chan after all the Internet mediafication and consolidation of the internet made it easy for them to spread (dis/mis )information and memes, and build consensus e and everyone got on the internet. Many d Project Chanology coverage a glimpse of the bigger picture of anime as filtered through /a/. People went to other places too, and the social ac People were working with what they knew of anime based mostly on Toonami and Adult Swim and what they knew of it based on fragments they saw on the internet. They understood little but thought they understood everything, and a lot of misconceptions started to develop and spread. They jumped to conclusions instead of learning anything, and didn't have a clear picture of what anime was coming out or what that anime was even like, who it was for, how well it sold, and so on. There are also significant and very complex differences between Japan and America in culture, society and media that people aren't even aware exist, and the flow of information from Japan to America is not great. So the situation was like blind men studying an elephant and relying their impressions to each other through a game of Chinese whispers in an echo chamber where the loudest voices win It's commonly believed that light novel adaptations have taken over, but they are actually outnumbered by manga adaptations and even original anime (there are a grand total of two LN adaptations this season, or three if you count shorts). It's believed that shows like K-On have taken over, but there have only been a few per season, sometimes none (very few of which have sales numbers even a quarter of K-On's). It's believed that shows like K-On feature pre-pubescent characters, but they are usually in high school or middle school (anyone with basic anime literacy can tell the difference). People can't decide if shows like K-On are ones where girls act cute and nothing happens or ones where a male protagonist sexually harasses the female characters and there are panty shots all the time. Shows like Girls und Panzer, Flying Witch and Hibike are conflated with K-On even though they are very different. Everything KyoAni has ever made is conflated with K-On. Fanservice is accused of being rampant and existing only to drive up sales, when in fact fanservice-heavy shows aren't made that much and don't have strong s thought to be identical to Sword Art Online, even though that isn't true at all. People complain bitterly about isekai and light novel shows being intri thei Perfect Insider had aired just the complaining that there just aren't any American-friendly shows being made anymore. And so on. The gap between what people believe is happening and what is actually happening is enormous. It seems like they should often be able to sense that something is wrong, but evidently theyve become experts at tuning out cognitive dissonance fanservic also been around since th ). The number of harem shows is overestimated by an order of magnit very kai (alternative world) anime i terrible even as they vote Re o and KonoSuba as the best of sons, oblivious to the contradiction. They get excited about Erased saving anime because it's a mature and serious show, even though Concrete Revolutio, Iron-Blooded Orphans, Sakurako-san and The son prior and there's nothing new about any of them. Almost every single show that you would expect Americans to approve of or be interested in is ignored while people sit around cont Anonymous 2 hours ago No.499369 499398 >499368 People don't watch anime or watch very little of it. They don't understand the limits of what little knowledge they may have. They aren't aware of their own biases and their own thoughts. They judge and develop expectations for anime through the lens of American culture even though it isn't made in America or for Americans, and they frequently employ nonsensical double standards in the process (f------ is ok in HBO shows and European art films if it olent r---, but get that degenerate otaku-panderi ng beach episode commerci t fanservic t outta They can rate things that are unfamiliar to them, and even omething as simple as watching undubbed anime may be too much. They expect that everything must adapt to them, not the other way around. They're weak-minded, easily manipulated by memes and hardly possess any free will (the internet noosphere tells them exactly what to think). They prefer mediation and abstraction over direct experience (slice of life anime is bad and all the same, according to what theyve heard and since n and Amaama to nazuma are both slice oflife they are both bad and both the same). They think being angry and cynical and hating everything is cruise contro or coo 90% of anime is s---, Sturgeon's Law lol), or maybe the y just enjoy getting outraged over thin Maybe anime just isn't for them and they should stop trying to struggle with it and go do something else, but I guess nowadays everything needs to be for everyone and everyone needs to state their strongly held opinions on everything even if they really, really have no idea what they're talking about

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